Blaine Neufeld [00:00:00]:
Welcome back to Change the Odd Podcast. You guys are going to notice a couple different voices on the podcast today. Uh, of course Adrienne is here, myself is here, but who is not here is Kevin A. Thompson. And that's okay, that's okay. We don't know where he is. He's probably on the golf course, that's where he's at. But better than that, we've got Taylor and Chloe Gall.
Blaine Neufeld [00:00:18]:
Welcome to the podcast, guys.
Chloe Gall [00:00:21]:
Thanks for having us.
Blaine Neufeld [00:00:21]:
Thank you, Adrienne. You, uh, you've been doing some homework on these guys. These are good friends. For the audience to know.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:00:27]:
But yeah, a quick intro.
Blaine Neufeld [00:00:28]:
Oh, here we go.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:00:29]:
Okay, so today we have the privilege of hanging out with some of our favorite people, Taylor and Chloe Gall. They are incredible worship leaders with hearts deeply anchored in leading people into the presence of God and encountering the Holy Spirit. Taylor is a gifted singer-songwriter.
Blaine Neufeld [00:00:47]:
Wow.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:00:48]:
Chloe has the voice of an angel. And when the two of them lead worship together, watch out. Babies will be made.
Blaine Neufeld [00:00:54]:
Oh wow, too many!
Adrienne Neufeld [00:00:57]:
Speaking of babies, I'm not done. Together they have 4 amazing boys, all under the age of 10, which we should touch on because that's a lot of crazy. And their marriage is a beautiful picture of friendship, joy, and unity. They are life-giving, deeply funny, and the kind of friends who leave you feeling more alive after spending time with them. And we are so excited to hang out with you guys.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:18]:
There you go.
Chloe Gall [00:01:20]:
So nice to know what you really think of us.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:01:22]:
Well, chat—
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:26]:
that didn't sound like you at all.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:01:28]:
Remember, I'm trying to be vulnerable.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:30]:
Yes, the word of the year is vulnerability. Do you guys have a— well, we, we can get on to that later because that's probably a part of the story of the word of the year.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:01:38]:
Yeah, we should dive into that.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:39]:
Word of the year? That— no, that's hers. Oh yeah, we want to know yours. Mine, I shared the other day on the podcast too.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:01:45]:
They clearly don't listen.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:46]:
It's Sherpa.
Chloe Gall [00:01:48]:
Sherpa. No, we did know that.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:49]:
My friend knows it's, uh, Sherpa. So actually, you are one of those that affirmed me in the Sherpa. Absolutely.
Chloe Gall [00:01:55]:
Lane, such a funny word.
Blaine Neufeld [00:01:58]:
Adrienne was wearing a sweater that day that apparently is called the Sherpa.
Chloe Gall [00:02:01]:
Yes.
Taylor Gall [00:02:02]:
Is that a Canadian thing?
Chloe Gall [00:02:04]:
No, the vest. I was wearing that yesterday in the zip-up jacket.
Blaine Neufeld [00:02:09]:
You didn't notice, Taylor? You didn't notice what Chloe was wearing?
Adrienne Neufeld [00:02:12]:
Interesting.
Blaine Neufeld [00:02:12]:
You know what I just noticed? I found out before we were starting to film this was Adrienne has dyed her hair and Chloe had told me that was about 3 months ago.
Chloe Gall [00:02:19]:
Oh, or longer.
Blaine Neufeld [00:02:20]:
That is tough.
Chloe Gall [00:02:21]:
Yeah.
Blaine Neufeld [00:02:22]:
A tough look for me. That is a tough look. But anyway, this isn't about me.
Chloe Gall [00:02:25]:
You all look great.
Blaine Neufeld [00:02:28]:
We love it. Well, thank you guys for coming on. You guys have a great story, which we're gonna get into, and we're so grateful that you're our friends. But I like to know, 4 kids, what's the morning routine like when you guys wake up? In the morning and say, "Today's another day." Well—
Taylor Gall [00:02:45]:
Yeah, you kick it off there.
Chloe Gall [00:02:48]:
Do we? He's looking at me because since our last baby was born, Riley is 5 months old. Yeah, just barely born. And honestly, Taylor has been the morning hero.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:00]:
Let's go, baby.
Chloe Gall [00:03:01]:
The absolute morning hero since Riley's been born. So I'm a little embarrassed to talk about the morning routine because oftentimes, I am not involved. Oh, um, if the baby's been up all night, he'll kind of take the morning. I've become a big morning person.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:15]:
You enjoy it too?
Taylor Gall [00:03:16]:
I have begun to really enjoy it.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:18]:
Really?
Taylor Gall [00:03:18]:
But the flip side is 9 PM rolls around, we're in bed, he wants to watch a movie or something, and I'm like, you're done.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:24]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chloe Gall [00:03:25]:
Or like, baby might be up a few times and you're, you know, obviously asleep by 9, and I'm—
Taylor Gall [00:03:31]:
I'm not asleep by 9. I actually try to hang on.
Chloe Gall [00:03:34]:
Oh, you're right. Last night was 8:30.
Taylor Gall [00:03:37]:
Last night was 9:30.
Chloe Gall [00:03:39]:
My gosh.
Taylor Gall [00:03:40]:
And I fell asleep in one of our kids beds.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:42]:
Yes, babe, it's all good.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:03:44]:
It's classic.
Blaine Neufeld [00:03:45]:
I'll interject here because the audience needs to know you guys are very good at fighting. So any good fight is a good, good thing to kind of discuss here on the podcast. So no concerns at home, ladies and gentlemen?
Chloe Gall [00:03:57]:
No, it's witty banter. It's not fighting. No, not at all.
Blaine Neufeld [00:04:01]:
No.
Taylor Gall [00:04:01]:
But I do like to wake up early. I am an avid runner, so I like to get up, run, and then I'm in a good spot to do breakfast, get the kids, watch where, where they go. And but I was noticing this morning, she got up this morning, guys.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:04:15]:
Okay, way to go, Chloe!
Chloe Gall [00:04:16]:
For the record, I am up like a couple to a few days a week. I've been more involved.
Taylor Gall [00:04:20]:
Let me affirm you, you are like so much more efficient in the morning than me. Like the lunch, the lunch is made. I'm like, dude, I need to just take a note. Bow out. Yeah, that's why I still run.
Blaine Neufeld [00:04:35]:
That's why I bowed out of our morning routines.
Chloe Gall [00:04:38]:
I don't know.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:04:38]:
Oh my God, he never— I actually never really—
Taylor Gall [00:04:40]:
like, what is your—
Blaine Neufeld [00:04:41]:
what's ours? Yeah, yeah, I sleep until 7:30, then he showers.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:04:45]:
I have everything done, everyone's ready, and then he comes down the stairs.
Chloe Gall [00:04:51]:
We'll interview you.
Blaine Neufeld [00:04:54]:
Adrienne's done a great job of waking up at 6, like, very disciplined.
Taylor Gall [00:04:58]:
It's because she goes to bed early.
Blaine Neufeld [00:04:59]:
Yeah.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:04:59]:
Yes, I, I am the same as you. I wasn't a morning person, but now I've become one. But then I have to be in bed by— yeah, last night was early too.
Blaine Neufeld [00:05:07]:
Yeah.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:05:07]:
And we're trying not to watch TV shows before bed because we have a really bad habit of doing that. And so then I'm just falling asleep.
Blaine Neufeld [00:05:15]:
You feel like you're better off without those shows?
Taylor Gall [00:05:17]:
You guys do TV in the room or no?
Blaine Neufeld [00:05:18]:
Oh yeah, yeah, right there in the bed.
Chloe Gall [00:05:20]:
We had to stop doing that a couple years ago. We had a TV in our— well, we do now, but the kids only watch it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:05:26]:
It is very fun.
Chloe Gall [00:05:27]:
It is fun. And we're like, wait, this It's the best. And then we realized actually it's kind of the worst. Like, we are kind of—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:05:34]:
ruins your life. Although I'm like, kind of weekends I'd still like to watch a movie together or something, but weekdays I want to be like disciplined.
Chloe Gall [00:05:41]:
Yeah, yeah, I think that's great.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:05:43]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chloe Gall [00:05:44]:
That's what we do too. Or we just fall asleep because we're just so dang tired. Well, yeah, I think it's just the baby phase, you know. But normally before the baby, we're like up together. And just kind of tag team everything.
Taylor Gall [00:05:58]:
Pre-kids, pre-baby, pre-baby, pre-writing.
Blaine Neufeld [00:06:01]:
Yeah, because you guys got into a rhythm. You had 3 kids and then we had one. We as, as a family here, yeah, we had one a few years later.
Taylor Gall [00:06:09]:
A few years later, yeah, we were on the fence of if we were going to have another, and you did.
Chloe Gall [00:06:15]:
The Lord, the Lord said, the Lord made it clear.
Taylor Gall [00:06:18]:
One of the funniest things was we had one day where all the kids were in school before the baby was born. Literally the next day she goes into labor. So we got this little taste of like, like what you guys have right now.
Blaine Neufeld [00:06:31]:
Yeah, it is.
Taylor Gall [00:06:31]:
Yeah, it's wonderful.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:06:32]:
Awesome.
Chloe Gall [00:06:33]:
Yeah, we know it was a great day.
Blaine Neufeld [00:06:38]:
Yeah, but we will walk back there.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:06:42]:
Yeah, 4 kids is awesome. Blaine comes from 4 boys, so he knows. He's your Riley. He's your baby.
Blaine Neufeld [00:06:47]:
He's your favorite.
Chloe Gall [00:06:48]:
And you know what? You're great. Yeah, you're great. There's hope for the future.
Blaine Neufeld [00:06:51]:
One of my questions— one of my questions was going to be, if you guys had a free afternoon, no kids, what would the two of you guys get up to together? What would that look like?
Taylor Gall [00:07:03]:
Go eat somewhere, for sure.
Chloe Gall [00:07:04]:
For sure. Yeah, we love— we're kind of foodies. Definitely a great restaurant. I don't know.
Taylor Gall [00:07:10]:
You know what I think is— we haven't experienced this a lot, but you know what I think we would probably love is like a hike, something outdoors. Um, but we also— like, one of the things—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:07:19]:
the runner, the marathon runner.
Chloe Gall [00:07:23]:
Oh, I mean, not like— I'm not trying to go with my Sherpa to climb Everest.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:07:29]:
We'll come, actually.
Blaine Neufeld [00:07:31]:
I'll help you.
Chloe Gall [00:07:32]:
But no, I love being outside, and we love to just like hang out, and it's a great opportunity to just like move your body but have great conversation.
Taylor Gall [00:07:38]:
Yeah. But one thing that I miss that we used to do a lot Is go to the movies.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:07:43]:
Yes.
Taylor Gall [00:07:44]:
I don't even know what movies have come out.
Blaine Neufeld [00:07:46]:
No, not many good ones, to be honest. I've been looking.
Chloe Gall [00:07:48]:
Last movie we saw was David, great family film.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:07:51]:
Oh yeah, we took the kids, that was fun.
Chloe Gall [00:07:53]:
We loved it. But a movie for the two of us, it's been a long time. For sure.
Blaine Neufeld [00:07:57]:
Nice product placement there on David movie. We're trying to get them to sponsor the podcast.
Chloe Gall [00:08:01]:
Oh, love that.
Blaine Neufeld [00:08:01]:
Okay, we're trying to get everyone to sponsor the podcast. No one has yet.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:08:06]:
No, no sponsors, but we're looking.
Blaine Neufeld [00:08:09]:
Do you have questions, babe? Because right now I'm carrying this interview.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:08:12]:
Keep carrying it. You're doing a great job.
Taylor Gall [00:08:14]:
Crushing it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:08:19]:
Okay.
Taylor Gall [00:08:19]:
He's carrying us.
Blaine Neufeld [00:08:19]:
So we're having— so do you enjoy— I feel like, Chloe, one of your giftings is depth. You know how to talk with someone and get to the depth. So when we're on the hike in the afternoon, you just love that part of it? Like you said, talk. I'd like to walk and talk, move and talk.
Chloe Gall [00:08:37]:
Well, in this season of our lives, if we're not intentional, we have very little meaningful conversation.
Taylor Gall [00:08:42]:
Okay.
Chloe Gall [00:08:43]:
And I think—
Taylor Gall [00:08:45]:
That's on me.
Chloe Gall [00:08:46]:
Oh, no, no, no, no. That is not a dig on you at all. The reality is, and I was just thinking about on the way here, we were saying, gosh, we really need to go to dinner or something, or maybe not dinner because we're so tired. Sometimes we'll sit at dinner and just like—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:09:00]:
And stare at each other.
Chloe Gall [00:09:01]:
Yeah, breakfast, maybe a breakfast date. But honestly, I mean, besides, how was your day, whatever. I can see now in this phase, in this phase with older kids and all their activities and things, how you really do start to drift apart, right? Because when's the last time I sat, you know, we sat and we're like, how are you doing? Like, how's your heart? What is the Lord showing you? Because you're not really able to do that in between like dishes and bedtime, you know? So honestly, yeah, I love any time we get to connect because we used to be able to do that. All the time. Or when we worked together, we could go to lunch and have these conversations. But if we don't make time for it, we just never really get to know how the other's really doing. Yeah.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:09:43]:
And you guys actually had a pretty crazy year last year. I don't know how much people know or how much you want to give, um, uh, insight into it, but you had a baby, you had a loss in the family, Taylor. Um, and I assume right now, like, you walked through this really hard year and there was a lot of times, Chloe, that you maybe needed to do a pulse check to see, like, how are we just doing emotionally, mentally? How did you guys kind of walk through that and, um, get through that season? I mean, you're still kind of in it, to be honest, right?
Chloe Gall [00:10:20]:
Like, it feels like we're still in it.
Taylor Gall [00:10:23]:
Yeah, I think that, um, yeah, so I mean, this last year So we— I lost my dad in March of 2025.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:10:31]:
Suddenly.
Taylor Gall [00:10:32]:
Very, very suddenly. Unexpectedly. Um, and our two older boys were with my dad when it happened. He passed away from a heart attack. And, um, so just very traumatic in many ways. Uh, grief, for anyone that is familiar with it, is like this crazy journey that I'm still on and I'll always be on. And so yeah, it kind of has like flipped our world upside down in many ways. I was super close with my dad.
Taylor Gall [00:11:01]:
He was very much just like the, you know, the center of our family, and we spent a ton of time with them. My kids were very close to him, so it's been a big loss. But I mean, I don't know if you want to talk about— like, I feel like I just— I don't even know, like, I, I wouldn't say I lost myself, but I just I— it was the hardest year of my life by far. And it— there were times that I thought I was doing okay, but then a lot of times where I just was like shell of myself.
Chloe Gall [00:11:31]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:11:32]:
You know, and I think like, you know, the Lord has been so good in the midst of all that. Um, truly I can say that, like, there's so much I'm grateful for, right? Um, but at the same time, like, there are moments last year that I know like I was not fun to be married to. And you were so supportive. I should say that. I should lead off and say that too. Like the way that she supported me and made space for me and, and came around like my mom and my family.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:12:00]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:12:00]:
Was, you know, just, you know, that you, uh, it's one of these things you're just like, I know I married the right person, but now I just like, you see it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:12:11]:
That's so beautiful.
Taylor Gall [00:12:12]:
I see it so much even more.
Blaine Neufeld [00:12:13]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:12:14]:
And I feel that way about the kind of mom you are too. I'm just like, thank God that I married this chick.
Blaine Neufeld [00:12:20]:
Yeah.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:12:22]:
This chick. This amazing woman of God. I mean, we very closely watched you guys in this season. And Chloe, you were a rock.
Blaine Neufeld [00:12:30]:
Unreal.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:12:31]:
For Taylor. And Taylor, I mean, we just can't—
Chloe Gall [00:12:34]:
What?
Taylor Gall [00:12:35]:
You were a mess. No, I was.
Blaine Neufeld [00:12:37]:
Well, of course.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:12:39]:
Yeah, I mean—
Blaine Neufeld [00:12:40]:
But speak to Chloe. Speak to the fact that you showed up. Like, what was the sense in that moment? Where, you know, you started to see these times and let's maybe pass the, the suddenness of it. But now we're 3 months down the line and you're seeing these tendencies in your husband because there's someone listening today that's probably experiencing something like it. And you can— you're very good at inspiring people. And it's like, fortunately, it's God using you through this story. But tell us.
Chloe Gall [00:13:07]:
Oh, man, I'm trying to think of There's so much I could say about Taylor. The thing about grief is your whole world has stopped, but the world doesn't stop. Yeah, right. So the show must go on. Like, the kids have to go to school. I'm pregnant with our fourth child unexpectedly.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:13:24]:
Like, pretty pregnant.
Chloe Gall [00:13:25]:
Yeah, yeah. So it was just— oh, it was crazy. And I think the first couple months it was like, okay, we're doing fine, we're making it. And then that was when you really hit kind of your rock bottom. Where it was like, hold on, this is permanent. We have to live with this. And I just, I've never, and in some ways, to be honest, I, and I was so thankful for how you still showed up for our kids and you were still like, I could tell you were trying your best. But at the same time, it was like, this is a different person than I've, than I married and I'm not sure what to do.
Chloe Gall [00:14:00]:
And, but at the same time, like I, I never wanted to rush you through the grief process, but honestly, when times I could feel you distance yourself, I felt like I needed to keep pulling you in and make sure that it's okay to bring the raw and the ugly, or if you feel like you have nothing to give, just tell me, let's just talk about it. I feel like my biggest goal was to make sure that you knew you didn't need to feel guilty and you weren't alone. So I, yeah, I don't feel like I have great advice, but it was just like, I remember one night we were about to turn on the TV and I was like, hold on, how are you doing? Are you okay? Like making sure in those moments, even though it feels weird or uncomfortable, and I like, we talked and you ended up breaking down in tears and it was this whole thing. And it was like, I won't share everything, but it was just like, I'm not okay. And it was like, that's tough.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:14:55]:
Vulnerability, baby.
Chloe Gall [00:14:55]:
And you know, people say like marriage is 50/50. Think that's trash. I think—
Blaine Neufeld [00:15:00]:
sorry, Kevin said that, so yes.
Chloe Gall [00:15:04]:
But I just think oftentimes it doesn't work that way. This last year, in a lot of ways, you could give 10 and it was my year to give 90, and that's okay, you know? And actually felt the Lord speak to me about that a couple of years ago when we were both talking about pursuing music or other things. I felt like it was my time to support you. And I was like, it's not my season to— it's not my season for things to be about me. It's the season for things to be about you. And God is so gracious that he's allowed space in our lives for me to be able to pull the 90 with the kids sometimes or whatever, so you can go off and do what you need to do. I didn't know that he was preparing my heart for grief, you know, and for me to carry our family in a different way. But I don't know how people do this without the Lord, right? And the Lord speaking to me about what my spouse needed, or speaking to me about ways that I needed to show up for him or whatever.
Chloe Gall [00:16:01]:
So I don't know if that makes sense or that's helpful, but just leaving space for him to fully walk through that process, but let him know, I'm here, you're not alone. I can't make it better, but I've got you.
Blaine Neufeld [00:16:14]:
My question, you kind of answered it, was the fact that you're pouring out all you have in this season, but where are you getting poured into, you know? And that's the beautiful thing about the seasons of marriage. There are seasons where you raise each other up and, and help each other. But what did you find? Because someone— again, I'm always thinking about that person that you got so much wisdom but is defeated right now. Where did you— you found it in the Lord, right? You found it ironically before you even knew that you needed it. But where else? What was your environment of support that you would encourage someone to go and find if they're going through something like that?
Adrienne Neufeld [00:16:50]:
And for Taylor too?
Blaine Neufeld [00:16:51]:
Yes.
Chloe Gall [00:16:51]:
Yeah, both of you guys. Yeah, well, I mean, for me it was— I have never, I've never had to be so vulnerable in my friendships. And you guys know, I mean, it, it takes a lot for me to really ask for help, um, and I— or accept it. People are like, oh, let me drop off dinner. I'm like, no, it's fine, I got it. This was a time where I was No, really, like, please bring dinner. We're dying, you know. And I— or gosh, I remember in those first few weeks, Amber's like, I'm going to come fold your laundry.
Chloe Gall [00:17:27]:
I was like, no, you're not. And then I looked around, I was like, can you come fold my laundry? So allowing— just being vulnerable with people you can trust, like you have to. But I invested in those friendships before. And so I think just finding a good, godly, solid community is everything. And then also people that are really— it's really important to find friends that support your marriage and will never pull you away from your spouse.
Blaine Neufeld [00:17:58]:
Oh, that's good.
Chloe Gall [00:17:59]:
So times where I could go in and be like, hey, this has been a really challenging part of my marriage because we're walking through this. And it's never like a, well, he should be doing this, or whatever. It's like, how can we pray for you? Or, I wonder if Taylor is feeling this. And they can offer perspective. And I always leave wanting to make my marriage better. So I think that's really, really important. And when you're walking through those seasons of grief or hardship, whatever it is, you need to be so choosy about who you're allowing to speak into your life and who you share that with. You need to guard your— protect your spouse and protect your heart, because you're in such a vulnerable state.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:18:41]:
Wow, that's really good.
Chloe Gall [00:18:42]:
And I don't know what you—
Taylor Gall [00:18:43]:
that is good. Yeah, I mean, I'd say a lot of the same. Um, just community is so important. Like, you guys have been there for us, several other friends have been there for us, and it's, uh, yeah, I, I think it's, uh, finding people that you can be vulnerable with. Going back to vulnerability, I think that is a really big deal because, uh, yeah, there are some people that you they'll be like, how are you? And you can tell, like, you start to tell them, you're like, oh wait, this guy does not want to hear it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:19:12]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:19:15]:
But there are those people that God has put in our life that it's like, okay, we can, we can have this conversation, we can go this depth. And then obviously, like, my spouse, like I said a minute ago, just like, thank God for you. And, um, and for my family, you know, like, I have the most amazing mom.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:19:30]:
Yeah, you do.
Taylor Gall [00:19:31]:
And my brothers and I are super close, and And then, you know, the thing I would say that I feel like goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway, is just like, uh, just leaning into the Lord, you know, where I feel like I did that when it first happened, and then I stopped. Then I was kind of just like defeated. Yeah, I'm just like angry, you know, which I guess is a stage of grief in some way. And I don't— yeah, but then at a certain point it was like, I have I have to like make a decision of like who I'm gonna be through this process. Am I gonna be somebody that is like taken down by this thing, or am I gonna be someone that maintains a soft heart? And I feel like that was like the flipping point for me of just like, yes, I'm still very much going through this, but I'm like, I'm gonna allow God to heal me. But there was a time I was just like, I just want to stay hurt.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:20:25]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:20:25]:
You know. And, um, so, but when you allow the Lord to work and you're vulnerable with God, then I feel like that's a big difference maker. Um, so that's awesome.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:20:37]:
So then what's your word of the year for this year?
Taylor Gall [00:20:42]:
So my word of the year, I've told these guys, uh, I, I need to find a better way.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:20:47]:
I don't know, I like it.
Taylor Gall [00:20:48]:
But my word of the year has been revenge.
Chloe Gall [00:20:50]:
Yeah, baby.
Taylor Gall [00:20:52]:
Because, you know, I don't know, like last year obviously it just didn't go my way, uh, didn't go our way.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:20:59]:
Well, you felt robbed, right?
Blaine Neufeld [00:21:01]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:21:02]:
And, you know, it's natural, I think, going into any year and you're like, this is going to be my year, and then it wasn't.
Chloe Gall [00:21:08]:
Quickly it was not.
Taylor Gall [00:21:09]:
Yeah. And then, and yet there's a lot of things I think God has put on my heart that have been on my heart for a while that, um, you know, just went, took a back seat last year just to try to survive. And, and the other piece too is like, I was going through all this, but also the kids had been through such a tragedy too. It was like, I just need to take care of myself, take care of them, keep everyone alive.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:21:30]:
So it was just very much like spread thin.
Taylor Gall [00:21:33]:
Yeah. And just like life support. And then this year it feels like, you know, it's, it's been almost a year since we lost my dad and that will always be a part of my story. But the calendar has flipped and it feels like for whatever reason, God's just like given a grace to this season to go like, great. You know, and the other thing I'd say too, a little bit rambling, sorry, is you go through something like that, it's very clarifying in many ways. Just like, what do I care about? And what things have I been giving power to in my life that doesn't matter? You know what I mean? And I only want to do the things that matter. The things that God has wired me and like positioned me to do. The rest of it, like, who cares? So I feel like that's the season we're in is just like, let's take back what the enemy stole.
Taylor Gall [00:22:22]:
Her mom used a great word that I think is probably a little bit more like appropriate than revenge. She was like, it's offense. It's like so much of our time as Christians I think is like defense. Like, I don't want— I don't want to get into that. I don't want to do this. I don't want to become that. I don't want to be this. And yes, flee from sin, all these things, but also we have been given a spirit of power.
Taylor Gall [00:22:44]:
Yes. And a sound mind and not timidity. And so like, what are the things that God's calling us go and advance, advance the kingdom. Yeah, do what he's putting your heart to do. Like, live into your calling, live into who he's wired you to be. And so I think that's, that's the season. It's like, all right, I've, I've learned some things this year. We've survived.
Taylor Gall [00:23:04]:
We're still here. Yeah, so what can we, what can we do to go on the offense?
Blaine Neufeld [00:23:08]:
I love it. Another piece of the story for sure is your guys' ability to diagnose your identity. In Christ and what he's calling you to do. We can get into the things that you aspire to do in going on the offense yet on this year, but at the same time, you guys are very, very good at working through— and there's been some influences, Jamie Winship, Living Fearless, there's a couple things that have kind of helped you guys get to this point. But like, coach, or experience, tell people your experience on finding that identity so that when the storm kind of comes and then you get out of the fog, you have this identity that you can rely on and live fearlessly and attack on offense the things that you're excited to do this year.
Taylor Gall [00:23:49]:
Yeah, why don't you take that?
Chloe Gall [00:23:50]:
Oh man. Well, I was thinking as you were talking about like having to lean into the Lord and lean into community, I think when you're in those heavy seasons, you discover how deep your well is, right? And how deep you are with the Lord, how much you, and like I said, investing in those friendships, you discover how deep your friendships really are. All of those things. And I'm so grateful that we had gone through, you know, as for context for people, we all read this incredible book together, Living Fearless by Jamie Winship, and really did a lot of work to discover who God says we are, right? And it's not just that we are his children and beloved and all the things scripture says, but that each of us actually have our own unique personal identity. And for me, um, it was truth-teller. And it's something that's been a theme over my entire life, where I think God's really called me to tell the truth and be bold in that. And there's times I've lived in that and times I've shied away. But tying it to kind of this last season, it was such a gift to have done that work, to have spent that time with the Lord and know who I am, because I needed to call that out in my spouse a lot.
Blaine Neufeld [00:25:01]:
Wow.
Chloe Gall [00:25:01]:
There were times where I needed to say, no, no, no, this is who God is, or this is who God says that you are. And I don't know if you would agree with that, but in like the lowest of the lows, just remind him like, this is who God says you are. And I'm so grateful that I was bold in that. And yeah, and it just kind of knew who I am and kind of the role that I play in our marriage to live that out. And I don't know if that answers your question.
Blaine Neufeld [00:25:29]:
Yeah, of course. I mean, that shares the experience of like practically using it Right? But even more so, the journey of how you got there, right, is encouraging, probably, 'cause there's probably people listening that are saying, "That's great for you. You work in a church and, you know, you're around spiritual people." But no, like, I'm almost alluding to walking them through, like, we're talking about the lies that we listen to every single day and we believe these lies, and then we write those down and we wash them away and we say, "Okay, God, what is it that you tell us that we are?" listening to those truths, and then you kind of get to the identity of truth teller. Yeah, there's that aspect of it too that people can walk through with the book. But for me, it's almost like your experience of being— let's call you a truth teller. I like how you've also shared in the past how when you're a kid, it almost gets flipped upside down sometimes on you. It's just like you are someone that speaks the truth, but sometimes that can come across as offensive, you know, to some friends in school or what have you. But like how you get to see how that worked in your life in a positive way now versus, you know, sometimes how we listen to the lies of how—
Chloe Gall [00:26:38]:
Absolutely. I think when you, especially now knowing like, no, this is who God says I am, you're able to see patterns of how the enemy tried to tell you it's who you're not your entire life, right? And I can think back to specific experiences, whether it was like a parent that said something rude to me over the years, or a teacher, or or other people in my life, whatever it may be, it was always the narrative in my mind was always, you're too much. You're taking up too much space. You're too loud. You're too bold. You're too honest. And so I would always kind of shy away from those things. And as I get older and spend time with the Lord and make sure that the right voices are speaking to me or I'm surrounded by the right people, they have confirmed like, no, that's who you are.
Chloe Gall [00:27:21]:
You need to do it in love and with kindness. Behind it. But now, yeah, now I just— I'm trying to take up the space God's made me for, you know? And also, I'm so grateful I married someone that encourages me in that, that doesn't shy away from like the ways that I am strong, the ways that I am like a bit too much sometimes, for sure, to be clear. I get out of balance. But yeah, that's kind of been part of, part of my journey.
Blaine Neufeld [00:27:53]:
But the beautifulness of the gift that you give others is you give them steel in the spine. Like, you give them the encouragement. It's like, gosh, I needed to hear that. And you're so gifted in that, and it's fun to be around. I'm sure you can attest to it.
Taylor Gall [00:28:07]:
Oh man, I was going to say, I think one of the cool things is, like, before we had kind of gone after this identity thing, one of the things I had noticed in her is, like, this ability— we'd be just having everyday conversation with people, and all of a sudden Chloe would just like— it's like the Holy Spirit just began to speak through her.
Chloe Gall [00:28:23]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:28:23]:
And just like a Bible verse comes out, or like a truth that I had forgotten from long ago, or whatever, that she just speaks like right to the heart of me or somebody else. And, um, I think it's so like dead on with what you're saying, like truth teller. It's, it's not being too much or being too honest. It's like an ability that's God-given to call out like what is actually true about the situation or somebody. What would God say about this? What does scripture say about this? Yeah. And, um, so it's not like a— I think that's the thing with the identity thing is it's not like a job title, a job position. It's nothing that can be— you can't be fired from your identity.
Blaine Neufeld [00:29:03]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:29:03]:
You can't be hired to your identity, right? You can be like made that way by the Lord, and you've been living that out. So yeah, I've been, I've been telling her for years, like, you're gonna preach the gospel. Amen. She does do all this stuff, and she already does, you know.
Chloe Gall [00:29:18]:
So let's say that. Yeah, yeah, don't need to give a word on a stage, but we'll do it in everyday conversation. Thanks, babe. That's very, yeah, very, very kind.
Blaine Neufeld [00:29:26]:
I think that's what's hopeful is everyday conversation, right? Because we pigeonhole ourselves into thinking the one guy on Sunday morning gets to say the thing. No, no, you're walking with so many people and you're speaking and articulating the lessons that those people are teaching to practical life, right? Because 9.5 out of 10 people are walking around questioning everything about them, and if someone can come up and say, no, this is what God is saying to you, what boldness that can give us to live our life, right?
Chloe Gall [00:29:55]:
So, well, thank you, it's very kind. It's also dangerous. Life and death is in the power of the tongue. So when you're someone that can think quick and say exactly what's on their mind.
Blaine Neufeld [00:30:06]:
Kind of like at a game night, right?
Chloe Gall [00:30:07]:
Like at a game night, you gotta be real careful. Or in an argument with your spouse, right? Really, it's good. Oh my gosh, my dad would always say, think before you speak, Chloe. Think before you speak.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:30:17]:
So this has been a theme in your life.
Chloe Gall [00:30:19]:
Yep. And now, yeah, and now I'm like, oh, I get it. And now that I have a child who's wired very similarly—
Blaine Neufeld [00:30:25]:
oh, you see it now.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:30:25]:
I really get challenges.
Chloe Gall [00:30:27]:
Think before you speak. Child. I won't say his name, but we love all our children. We love so much.
Blaine Neufeld [00:30:32]:
So in your fights, because that's one of the areas that we love to talk about— we love fighting for the good reason that we know that—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:30:39]:
I think you should rephrase that. We don't love fighting, but we've gotten good at it.
Blaine Neufeld [00:30:43]:
How about this? We're not scared to fight because we know the result is going to be a healthier version of ourselves, and we have a secure attachment.
Chloe Gall [00:30:51]:
Yeah, we do.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:30:51]:
Yeah, we do.
Chloe Gall [00:30:52]:
Okay, so, so hot.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:30:54]:
Wait, oh yeah, I want to talk about fighting. Sure. But I also want to talk, like, you guys work together and you guys are both super creative. You both have like same giftings in songwriting and singing and leading worship, and you do that together. But is there ever times where one of you has to maybe sacrifice your own ambitions to propel the other one? Or I don't know, like, what's the dynamic between you two sometimes that can cause friction? I mean, you can be a super power, super, super couple, super power couple, because like when you lead together, it's just incredible. It's like the best thing ever. But there must be challenges that come with that too.
Chloe Gall [00:31:37]:
No, no, no, no, not really. Oh my goodness, are there challenges with that, babe?
Taylor Gall [00:31:45]:
I mean, yeah, I, I think that I feel like you've been doing a lot of the talking, but to be honest, I feel like a lot of that happened earlier on in our marriage, right? First became parents.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:31:56]:
Okay, so maybe let's like— let's rephrase that and put it—
Blaine Neufeld [00:32:02]:
I got like a coffee grain in my throat.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:32:04]:
Oh my God, are you okay?
Blaine Neufeld [00:32:06]:
Give me a minute. I'm not emotional, I'm just trying to— go ahead.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:32:10]:
Um, yeah, like, like you've come a long way, you've learned how to do this because you've been doing it for a long time together, but back in the day, like, what were some power struggles or, yeah, or things that came up.
Taylor Gall [00:32:20]:
Well, I was going to say, you know, to be really honest, like, and she alluded to this a minute ago, a lot of it is with becoming parents.
Chloe Gall [00:32:28]:
It—
Taylor Gall [00:32:28]:
there, there came a point where it's like, hey, you can't bring the baby to all these things because the baby's very loud.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:32:35]:
Oh yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:32:36]:
And it becomes like it's really one or the other.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:32:38]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:32:38]:
And that was an interesting season for us. But you've had to kind of, you know, sacrifice probably more than me, definitely more than me in a career.
Chloe Gall [00:32:50]:
Probably.
Taylor Gall [00:32:50]:
So yeah, I don't know if you want to share about that because that's definitely been a journey.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:32:54]:
Yeah, tell them the story about the, the teeth.
Chloe Gall [00:32:58]:
Oh my gosh, when Judah's teeth— so thankfully we'd worked through a lot of these, you know, a lot of these things before this happened. So for context, yeah, Taylor would often would often travel for songwriting, leading worship, whatever, all the things. And, um, there was one time where he was on the road, and I think it was a longer stretch. When our third, uh, son Benjamin was born, he was traveling twice a month, sometimes for— it was like 3 to 5 days at a time. That's a good stretch when you have a baby and a 3-year-old and a 5-year-old. A 2-year-old and a 5-year-old. It's crazy. Um, you kind of black out those days, you know.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:33:44]:
I know.
Chloe Gall [00:33:44]:
But there was one night where I called Taylor and our— or he called me to check in, I can't remember exactly. No, you called me. He remembers. He remembers very well. He was too busy having fun to call. But, um, I— yeah, I was home with the kids and I hear a scream from one of the bedrooms. And it's like the end of the night where you think everyone's about to go to bed, right? You think you're about to sign off for the night. No.
Chloe Gall [00:34:10]:
I go in, our oldest is covered in blood. Oh, covered in blood. Opens his mouth and a massive chunk of both of his front teeth are gone. Missing, gone. He's freaking out. And I think our— I think Benjamin was screaming. He's like, you know, a couple months old. And Taylor— I call Taylor because— oh, because he was with someone whose wife is our dentist.
Chloe Gall [00:34:37]:
I'm like, what do we do? So I call Taylor and what were you doing when I called you?
Taylor Gall [00:34:42]:
I was about to walk into a Michelin star restaurant.
Blaine Neufeld [00:34:46]:
Living the tough life.
Taylor Gall [00:34:48]:
Just living my best life, staying at a Disney resort.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:34:50]:
Oh my gosh.
Chloe Gall [00:34:52]:
Yeah, no, it just keeps getting worse. And he's, this was like day 3 of 5 at this point or something, you know? So I'm already like on edge. Yeah, anyways, so he's like, oh, I'll do what I can. Good luck over there.
Blaine Neufeld [00:35:03]:
You're trying to be supportive.
Taylor Gall [00:35:04]:
I've been there.
Blaine Neufeld [00:35:04]:
I've been on the road. I mean, work is work. Right? If it has to take you to a Michelin star restaurant, working hard, it is what it is.
Chloe Gall [00:35:12]:
Let me write a song and go eat a steak.
Blaine Neufeld [00:35:14]:
The tough part is there's only so much you can do.
Taylor Gall [00:35:17]:
There's literally nothing. Nothing you can do. I'm in Florida. Yeah, I can't do anything, right?
Chloe Gall [00:35:22]:
Yeah, the sun is shining, which is not his fault. It's not his fault. It's not his fault. Um, totally. But gosh, if that had been like 2016, 2017, that probably would have would have been a very different story, which was when our oldest was born in 2016. At the same time, we were getting ready to release music for the first time with Thrive, right? All of that, getting more involved in songwriting, all of these things. And I got pregnant unexpectedly, which is also a theme in our lives.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:35:53]:
Not one, two, but three.
Chloe Gall [00:35:56]:
Yep. I always say we planned one. I won't say his name. No, you just did. We would all say we planned one and he's our favorite, which is not true. It's not true at all. Not true at all.
Blaine Neufeld [00:36:08]:
Who is your favorite?
Chloe Gall [00:36:10]:
I'll tell you later. No, it changes, right?
Blaine Neufeld [00:36:13]:
Yeah, day to day.
Chloe Gall [00:36:14]:
It really does change by the day. No, we love all of our boys. But yeah, it was very hard. And I also think I could— and I'm going to do my best not to go on a rant. We live in this culture that says you can have it all, and that is just not true. It's just not true. You have to pick and choose, and you have to decide what you're going to prioritize. And there came a point where we realized, like, we can't both have great careers, we can't both have strong friendships, we can't both be present parents, right? And all of the things, something has to give.
Chloe Gall [00:36:53]:
And, um, Even though in my heart I knew that was true, and I think I fought it for a while, and we realized our family's suffering, this isn't worth it. And I took a huge back seat for the last, what, I mean, 7, 8 years probably. And it's the best investment I could have ever made. Um, and there's a Ben Rector song says that he's learned to eat the fruit that is in season. And I think right now the truth is what's in season for me right now is getting to be with my kids. That's great.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:37:22]:
Right?
Chloe Gall [00:37:22]:
That's the fruit that's in this season and getting to invest in them and be a great mom. And it's okay that it's not my season to pursue, pursue these other things and my career. And it's my joy to support him. And I wish that I had just known that, but I fought it for a while. But I, if there's anything I could say to a young mom right now or a young dad, whatever, it's pray and just lean into the season that you're in. That's great. Right? And think about what you want your life to be 30 years from now, or what you want to go back and think like, what do I wish I would have done? And just let go of your pride and lean in, because you won't, you won't regret it. And you cannot get this time back, right? I can build a career later, I can do music later, I can whatever, I can pursue whatever I want later, but I only have these young kids right now.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:38:14]:
That's so true. And I think I think there's a lie too that I struggle with believing is that like you've missed your time. It's like, oh, you're almost 40 or whatever. You're not, but I am.
Chloe Gall [00:38:25]:
And it's kind of—
Blaine Neufeld [00:38:25]:
You look 30, babe.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:38:27]:
Say more things.
Blaine Neufeld [00:38:29]:
Did you dye your hair?
Chloe Gall [00:38:31]:
You look blonder.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:38:32]:
No, but I'm going to.
Blaine Neufeld [00:38:33]:
So just—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:38:35]:
What?
Blaine Neufeld [00:38:35]:
What was I saying? The window of time. The lie.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:38:38]:
The seasons and the scarcity mindset. And it's like if you look in the Bible, it's like all the big characters were like, 100, right? You know, like so old, like God can use you. Well, he's using you now for your kids, but like, you know, other ways in the future. Like, it's not too late.
Blaine Neufeld [00:38:54]:
But there's, there's things that God has given us passions for, dreams for. These are his intentions for us. And what you're saying is your time is yet to still come and fulfill some of those dreams, even though your purpose right now is, is massive in terms of setting up the next 50 years.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:39:11]:
Absolutely. Building your character so that when the time comes, you're ready body. And, and the, the— what am I trying to say? Whatever happens isn't greater than your character. It's like, so, you know what I mean? What's the word? Not purpose, but your platform isn't greater than your character or whatever. Yeah, because it could crush you if you're not strong.
Blaine Neufeld [00:39:32]:
Yep.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:39:32]:
And who God made you to be.
Chloe Gall [00:39:34]:
100%. That is so good.
Taylor Gall [00:39:36]:
No, go ahead.
Chloe Gall [00:39:38]:
No, I was just gonna say, now I— in Even every time I get up on stage right now and go to lead or think about, I think about, I think I told Taylor the other day, I'm so glad God didn't answer my prayers the way that I wanted him to at 22, 23, even 30. I'm going to be 34 this year.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:39:58]:
You look 21.
Blaine Neufeld [00:39:59]:
Yeah.
Chloe Gall [00:39:59]:
No, she looks 34.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:40:02]:
Oh.
Chloe Gall [00:40:02]:
You said 34? You said, nope, she looks 34.
Blaine Neufeld [00:40:05]:
Embrace the 34.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:40:06]:
I know, you're right. We got to just embrace it. Embrace it. Embrace the beauty.
Blaine Neufeld [00:40:09]:
We're beautiful 34s.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:40:12]:
Gift. Life is a gift, right? You know that better than anyone.
Chloe Gall [00:40:16]:
Yeah, Botox will be my birthday gift.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:40:18]:
No, no, I don't think that's not what we're trying to say here, Chloe, but if you would like to sponsor us from Botox—
Taylor Gall [00:40:25]:
I do think the benefit of getting older though is you do see there's a season for everything. Yeah, the Lord works in seasons and you don't have to force it. Like, this, this life is supposed to be open-handed and there's there's times that God puts things in your hands and times that he takes them away. Um, but there's like a, yeah, there's just like a grace on a season to, to stay home or to go and do. And I think that's why it's important to learn like God's voice, because there's times that I think he's, he's told me to like to go and work and till the soil, all these things. And there's also been times where it's like it's time to pull back. You know, and I pulled back from that season of traveling. Yeah, a couple years before like everything happened with my dad.
Taylor Gall [00:41:10]:
And I think like I got to be a part of some really sweet times with my family because like we were kind of like zoned into what, what God was saying.
Chloe Gall [00:41:19]:
And, um, yeah, and that was, that was hard. That— and you should talk about that too. So we talk about like my sacrifice. Sure. But then, um, Taylor really felt like the Lord told him to pull back from some really specific things that are things he's like dreamt of doing for a long time. And there wasn't really any rhyme or reason. Actually, on paper it was all very stupid, but he— but we both knew. I think not— I think I know this is what the Lord was saying, and you did it.
Chloe Gall [00:41:47]:
And I think you should talk about that a little bit and just like being why you did it.
Taylor Gall [00:41:54]:
And yeah, I mean, I think it goes back to what what you're saying with just the whole like surrender trust thing is it's just like, uh, it's this scarcity mindset that's like, if I don't do it now, it'll never happen. Yeah, I don't take advantage of this opportunity, it'll never happen. And that's just not how God works, you know. Like his, his word says, I will actually— I'll restore the years of the locust has stolen. And at the, at the proper time, like, he will raise us up. At the right time, I will do it. And so there's all these scriptures about like God has appointed times for these different things in our lives. And so yeah, a few years back, I mean, it was— I was doing a lot of traveling, a lot of songwriting, a lot of not Michelin star dinners.
Blaine Neufeld [00:42:38]:
He's the one.
Taylor Gall [00:42:40]:
Some really cool things. One of our songs, you know, had a pretty big reach on the radio, and getting to be a part of that was fun, was really cool. And it was this season of of ministry that was just like all of a sudden God's hand was just on the music that we were writing, and it was like a dream come true in very like a ton of ways. And then it felt like, yeah, I don't know, God just sort of— that season ended, and there was— it felt like what God was saying is like, like, don't get ahead of me. Yeah, don't move past me. And to, uh, go where I go. And, and for me, that looked like I had to take a hard look in the mirror. And through a lot of prayer, I just was like, I think my season of traveling right now, I don't think there's a grace on it anymore.
Taylor Gall [00:43:31]:
Like, I have— we have our third young one at home. And, um, so I just kind of told the guys that— the team that we were working with on the music stuff, like, hey, it's, it's my season to be at home. And that was a challenge, and it was, uh, kind of dumb in some ways, and maybe it still is dumb, but at the same time, I am so grateful for that decision. And, um, because this past couple of years at home have been crucial. Yeah, like really crucial. And I've, um, I think just like put down some deeper roots that if I hadn't have had in this season, then I would be I don't know where I would be. Yeah.
Blaine Neufeld [00:44:12]:
So yeah, I love it.
Chloe Gall [00:44:13]:
Yeah. Or there's been like even disappointments that we were like, oh, we're really bummed that didn't happen. But now we see, thank God, like one of those things was you were gonna have to be in Nashville once a month, and that was right before your dad passed. And we found out about Riley, and we're like, thank— and we were kind of—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:44:31]:
yeah, could you imagine?
Chloe Gall [00:44:31]:
It didn't pan out, you know. And then we look back, we're like, oh my gosh, God was so faithful and so good. Yeah. And if that— if opportunities like that come back around, yeah, we are like, our hearts are so much more secure. We're so much more like planted as a family, all of these things, we'd be ready for it. But it's just, and for some people, God gives a green light, travel, all of the things, but just lean into the season that he's asking you to be in and don't fight it. 'Cause when I did try to fight it in the early years, there was so much turmoil in our marriage. And I look back on the, the first couple years with our oldest, oh, I look back on those first years with a lot of sadness that I didn't enjoy motherhood like I was supposed to.
Chloe Gall [00:45:17]:
I saw it more as a burden. And I will always look back and wish that I'd spent more time with him. And the truth is, if you don't lean into the season that you're in and see it for the gift and the joy that it is, and you're like longing for the next season, you rob yourself of everything that season is supposed to be. Yeah. Right? So just eat the fruit that's in season and enjoy it. And God is good, um, and he knows best.
Blaine Neufeld [00:45:43]:
He does. I love that. And then practically speaking, how do you guys communicate that? Is it going praying together? Is it journaling? Is it— what was that like practically, to hear and be concrete with your spouse in terms of, this is what God's telling us, we vetted it? What does it look like for you two?
Taylor Gall [00:46:01]:
I would say when we began to pray together that our marriage totally changed. And completely, yeah, it feels awkward at first, like pray out loud with your spouse, but there's a vulnerability that is, uh, created there that I feel like when we do have conversations about anything, it's, it's— that's what we lead with, is like, I feel like God's saying this, I sense this. And sometimes it's like, oh really? Huh. And sometimes it's like, I've, I've been feeling that too. I've been praying about this.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:46:33]:
And, um, so practically, when do you pray together? Is it like before bed, in the morning, before you just have a conversation?
Blaine Neufeld [00:46:39]:
Is it naturally throughout the day?
Taylor Gall [00:46:41]:
It's like, it's usually like, I'd say in the evenings. Okay. You know, and there's seasons where we're more like consistent with it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:46:48]:
Totally.
Taylor Gall [00:46:49]:
Like right now is not one of those seasons.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:46:50]:
No. Yeah, because you're falling asleep. Yeah, you're up in a minute.
Blaine Neufeld [00:46:54]:
Yeah, but the fun thing, that's okay too.
Taylor Gall [00:46:56]:
The fun thing is, to be honest, there's grace. Yeah, there's a ton of grace. And again, I think God gives us grace for this season.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:47:02]:
Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:47:02]:
And we're doing the best we can. Yeah, I think we're doing pretty good.
Chloe Gall [00:47:05]:
Yeah, I'm praying, just not with you.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:47:09]:
I'm praying for you.
Chloe Gall [00:47:11]:
Yeah, top of my prayer list.
Taylor Gall [00:47:12]:
But it is fun when we do have those moments where, let's say, we were gonna go do the hike or the dinner or whatever it would be, like there's this well of like, I know that you're walking with the Lord, you know I'm walking with the Lord, and there's it's fun to get to like compare notes on those things.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:47:28]:
And totally, yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:47:28]:
But yeah, I mean, I honestly— yeah, praying at night, praying just whenever. But then— but let's not have it be like weird to talk about things of the Lord.
Chloe Gall [00:47:38]:
Yeah, you know, it's the best. It's so much fun to have like a shared mission.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:47:44]:
That's what I was gonna say. What I love about you guys is that one, you're like great friends, and then two, you are on mission together. And it's just, you can just see it everywhere. And that's what's, I think, attractive for us, like, as friends, that we just love to do life with you guys.
Chloe Gall [00:48:02]:
We feel the same way about you guys. Yeah. Um, one thing I would say too is, remember the, you know, right before we moved to Orange County and we were just questioning so many things, and we— there were nights where we would just talk each other down and we would end up just being so discouraged. I think what we've learned, rather than say— rather than just like spiral into this hole of we both feel sad and discouraged about whatever the circumstance is, stop before you go there and just pray, right? So just like, there's no way we can tackle this tonight, you know, there's no way we can fix this. Let's just stop, take our thoughts captive, and take a few minutes to pray together. And I feel like we always leave those moments feeling more grounded, feeling so much more at peace. We've invited the Lord's spirit into our home rather than just get stuck on the financial thing we can't fix or the job thing we're frustrated about. And that's kind of been a life hack for us, honestly.
Taylor Gall [00:48:58]:
That's amazing. Plus, we don't lose as much sleep.
Chloe Gall [00:49:01]:
Yeah, there's that too. Yeah, we all need as much as we can get right now, which is always your wisdom. You're like, we should stop. And I'm like, but I have so much more to say.
Taylor Gall [00:49:10]:
Yeah, two nights ago we were talking about something, you're like, how are you falling asleep?
Adrienne Neufeld [00:49:16]:
Two dots in on my list.
Blaine Neufeld [00:49:18]:
For real. I love it. Yeah, that's cool to give yourself space and grace as a couple to actually discern the event. It's not immediate. You don't have to make this decision tonight, but you're going to leave room for the Spirit to talk. And you're going to also find that people will affirm you that are close to God and start talking about these kind of things around you, and you start to be more aware of it. I know there's been times where maybe when we made the move or different things like that down to America where You know, you come back together and you're excited to share your day because, oh, something else happened that affirmed what we're thinking about. Oh my gosh, this is— and then suddenly you're united in the fact that you're going to make this decision together versus resentment of I want to go and pursue this job and whether you like it or not, we're going to go.
Blaine Neufeld [00:50:06]:
And you know what I'm saying? Like a family like that is even though they're a very supportive wife and they just say, sure, if you tell us so, it's like, no, no, no. Have a mutual conversation, give space for affirmation in that decision.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:50:20]:
Yeah, that's so good. So after a year like this, do you— because you're very creative— do you feel like it's inspired music, writing? Yes. Do you have any exciting music coming out?
Blaine Neufeld [00:50:37]:
Great segue. Really worked that in there naturally.
Taylor Gall [00:50:40]:
You know what is funny? I'm getting to the point where I feel like it is inspiring it, but I don't think I'm quite there yet. I think there are some songs I've written out of this past year, but it has, I think, given me this green light to go like, what has God put in you that is meant to be like outworked? And so I have some songs that I've been sitting on that I feel like through this process I'm just like, you know what, I'm putting these songs out into the world. And so I've taken kind of like what for me has been a very scary step. I've been like leading worship for a long time, been a part of Thrive Worship, and none of those things aren't changing. But I also have this other side of my like music stuff that's just songs that I write that aren't necessarily church songs, but they're songs about faith and a lot of stuff that we've been talking about today. And so yeah, my first one is about to come out. We're just finalizing like the artwork, the last couple pieces of it, but it's done.
Chloe Gall [00:51:39]:
Amazing. It's really good. I know I'm biased.
Taylor Gall [00:51:41]:
It's really good. Yeah. And so I'm gonna put that out. Uh, first song's called Open Road, and it's about faith, and it's just about, um, you know, like, faith isn't about, like, seeing all the outcomes, but it's about just going, doing what God says to do. And so that's what I feel like I'm doing in this season, is asking me to put this music out, and I'm— yeah, I'm doing it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:52:01]:
Do you have a release date? I don't have a release date, but it's coming, so stay tuned.
Chloe Gall [00:52:06]:
Oh yeah, February something.
Taylor Gall [00:52:08]:
Yeah, we also don't know when. Early March at this point, but okay, well, spring. It'll be February or March 2026. If you follow me on Instagram, yeah, I'll be posting about it a bunch.
Blaine Neufeld [00:52:20]:
And followed at—
Taylor Gall [00:52:21]:
what is it? Taylor Steven Gall.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:52:23]:
And Steven was your dad's name?
Taylor Gall [00:52:25]:
Yes, and my middle name.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:52:28]:
Well, I just think that's nice. It is sweet. And Chloe, you're doing some stuff online?
Blaine Neufeld [00:52:33]:
Yeah, you're doing something.
Chloe Gall [00:52:34]:
We don't want to talk about any of that.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:52:36]:
Hey, you're showing up online.
Chloe Gall [00:52:38]:
I like it. Oh my God, I'm trying to like— and I was thinking while you were talking, it's also fun. It's fun to know your identity separately, but also really fun to know kind of why God brought you together. 100%. And discover that. And I think we've really dug into that the past few years. And I think one of the reasons— I know one of the reasons God has brought us together is we are supposed to inspire people that God has more for them than they think. Like, allow people to dream, grow their faith, and get back to believing Ephesians 3:20, right? That God can do more than we could ask, think, or imagine.
Chloe Gall [00:53:13]:
Like, living a Christian life should not be safe. It should be anything but safe. So anyways, I think that's part of why God's maybe been asking me to show up a little bit more online, is just showing women like motherhood can be joyful. Yeah. And fun, but also encourage them in their walk with the Lord. It's amazing. Um, so I'm doing that by like stupid fun videos or meal planning or stuff I'm doing with my kids, whatever it is. Everyday life.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:53:39]:
Everyday life.
Chloe Gall [00:53:40]:
Yeah, but joyfully. But joyfully.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:53:42]:
What's your little handle there? Just Chloe Victoria Gall on Instagram.
Chloe Gall [00:53:46]:
That's my handle.
Blaine Neufeld [00:53:47]:
Look at you, babe, you know, getting the socials out there and all that. The other day I was looking at the real influencer.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:53:53]:
No, no, I have, I have a very interesting relationship with Instagram, and I'm trying to ask God why, and —so close. Yeah, we're very close, but that's not for another time.
Blaine Neufeld [00:54:02]:
Yeah, it is for another time. We will, we will get down to the deep root of it. But, uh, the other day I saw a video— this is fun— where Taylor was singing to Riley on the ground, and I wanted him to sing to me.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:54:15]:
And Blaine goes— we were talking about that— he goes, so Chloe, does Taylor often sing on the ground to your children?
Chloe Gall [00:54:23]:
Oh my God, I was just—
Blaine Neufeld [00:54:24]:
everyday life, it was And more so, like, in the— we love the fact that Instagram is definitely very catered and it's not this real everyday occurrence. You do a good job of showing both sides. Thank you.
Chloe Gall [00:54:35]:
That is a real everyday, and I know it is.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:54:37]:
Yeah, we know. And I'm like, Blaine, why aren't you singing to our children with the guitar?
Chloe Gall [00:54:42]:
Like, Taylor's so the Mary in our marriage, right? Like, I'm the Martha for sure.
Taylor Gall [00:54:47]:
Things you don't want your wife to ever say.
Chloe Gall [00:54:51]:
Oh my gosh, no, but in In the best way, he's so good at being like present with our kids where I'm like, do the dishes, clean your room.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:54:59]:
Well, yes, that's been a theme for me too. And for context, Mary is the one who sat at Jesus' feet where Martha was trying like, why aren't you helping me clean and get the food ready?
Chloe Gall [00:55:10]:
Dude, I feel for Martha.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:55:13]:
I think all the moms feel for Martha.
Taylor Gall [00:55:15]:
You're Martha for sure.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:55:16]:
I'm a Martha, but in this season I'm trying to be more of a Mary. Like when the kids are at school, I want to clean, do all the things, but I feel like God's like, be a Mary today, be a Mary, sit with me, be with me, you know? So I'm trying to be more present when I'm not needed physically by anybody, including you.
Taylor Gall [00:55:33]:
It's really good. That's why you've been waking up early, right?
Adrienne Neufeld [00:55:36]:
Yes, I'm trying to be more Mary.
Blaine Neufeld [00:55:38]:
And I admire Taylor. I know he is the Mary.
Chloe Gall [00:55:45]:
He'll just be like sitting and like playing guitar, go to the piano, be like, Judah, come over and like sing with me. They'll have the sweetest dreamboat Taylor.
Taylor Gall [00:55:52]:
I know Riley loves music. He just—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:55:54]:
he was— well, how can he not? You guys are so gifted in your musical abilities.
Chloe Gall [00:56:01]:
He never hears me sing. He just watches me clean.
Blaine Neufeld [00:56:04]:
You don't sing while you clean happily? No.
Chloe Gall [00:56:08]:
You know what's so funny? People always ask like, is your home just full of music? Do you sing to each other all the time? And I'm like, no. And now that I've been making videos, someone's always singing in the background. One of our kids don't even know Taylor. Yeah, but it's— it is actually really sweet.
Blaine Neufeld [00:56:27]:
Anyways, I love it. Well, we've covered lots today, and this won't be the only time, guys. You got so much to give. You guys are a well of depth, and it's so fun because you're authentic and honest. But one thing before we go. We want to do this. This is new. This is new to the audience.
Blaine Neufeld [00:56:41]:
Yeah, Kevin doesn't know about this, but— and, uh, we'll see if we get another chance to do an interview.
Chloe Gall [00:56:47]:
Regardless, because everyone comes out. We're really sorry if we ruined your chances, Kevin. They're great. Give them one more shot.
Blaine Neufeld [00:56:54]:
Yeah, but what we think is fun is because you guys are best friends, that you love each other, I think it's also fun to also hear the things and the thoughts that you have for your spouse. And speaking life over each other. So without them knowing, we asked them to kind of send a little bit of a list or things that they love about their spouse. This is Taylor to Cole.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:57:13]:
They haven't heard this. They sent it to us separately. Yes.
Blaine Neufeld [00:57:16]:
And don't react until I'm done. Okay. You're my best friend. You are genuinely funny. You make me laugh. You have a completely pure heart for the Lord. You are an amazing mom to our boys. You've supported me in all that I do and have challenged me in the best ways, which we heard a lot about today, which is so cool.
Blaine Neufeld [00:57:36]:
You have a God-given gift to recognize and speak biblical truth. You're so easy to talk to and you bring joy and fun wherever you go, in brackets, most of the time. You haven't seen Chloe at a game night.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:57:56]:
They're both very competitive, which we love to watch. Yeah.
Taylor Gall [00:58:00]:
Okay, thank you, babe.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:58:02]:
Yeah, that's very sweet. Okay, and now to Taylor from Chloe. She wrote it in like—
Chloe Gall [00:58:07]:
okay, yeah, I didn't realize it was like a— you're—
Adrienne Neufeld [00:58:09]:
it's not like Taylor. Yeah, but he— about Taylor: He's a man of great integrity. Sometimes the narrow road is a lonely road, but he chooses obedience over man's approval every time. Oftentimes he deserves the credit, yet he rarely takes it. He's humble, and that's hot. He is so funny. Doesn't need to be the funniest or the loudest in the room, but the jokes he's keeping to himself or saying to the person next to him are probably the funniest ones, which we can attest to. He's my best friend, and I could truly spend every second with him.
Chloe Gall [00:58:41]:
Red heart emoji. Whether he likes it or not, I'm like, I could be with you all the time.
Blaine Neufeld [00:58:46]:
I love it.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:58:47]:
Oh, that is so sweet. You guys are amazing.
Chloe Gall [00:58:50]:
We love you guys. Thank you for having us, you guys. We love you. Thanks for being our friends. Really, you guys, these guys are the best of the best, and it should be your privilege, privilege and honor to get to listen to them every week. Oh, stop.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:59:04]:
They're the best. Very kind.
Taylor Gall [00:59:05]:
It's true.
Blaine Neufeld [00:59:06]:
We're here to learn and we love it. And together, as we kind of work through this, is how we always end. If we keep doing things, we're gonna change the odds, cuz that's the name of the podcast.
Adrienne Neufeld [00:59:17]:
I love it. Love it. Let's change 'em, guys.
Chloe Gall [00:59:18]:
Let's change 'em. Change 'em. Love it.
Taylor Gall [00:59:19]:
Thanks you guys.
Chloe Gall [00:59:20]:
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Blaine Neufeld [00:59:21]:
See you next time.